Travel plans.

Travel plans disrupted by Covid-19.

24-11-2020ETIENNE LAURENT

European Union countries kicked off a debate this evening on whether people who have received a COVID-19 vaccine should have greater freedom to travel in the summer than those not immunized.

Europe ministers from the 27 EU nations held a video conference to discuss greater coordination for the roll-out of vaccines, a topic to be picked up by EU leaders who will meet online on Thursday.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis floated the idea last week in a letter to the European Commission of an EU-wide vaccination certificate to help restore cross-border travel that has been crippled by the pandemic. German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said on Sunday that vaccinated people should be able to return sooner to restaurants and cinemas, although other ministers have criticised his view.

Maros Sefcovic, a European Commission vice president, said it was important to stress that vaccination is voluntary - some people were unable or unwilling to receive a vaccine.
Sefcovic told a news conference after Monday's meeting such people should not have their rights limited. However, vaccination could become a condition for travel, like current requirements in many countries for a negative COVID test.

"There will be different options how we handle travel ... the possibility of the electronic vaccination certificate could be added," he said.

Michael Roth, representing Germany said it was vital to establish if vaccinated people could still transmit the coronavirus to others.

The EU executive is working to ensure that vaccination data can be collected electronically in a common form. The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control will start collecting data from this week on vaccines delivered and vaccinations per country.
Sefcovic said EU countries needed to be largely synchronised to help keep open its single market, which allows freedom of movement of people and workers.

Many EU nations say they are receiving lower-than-expected supplies of COVID-19 vaccines and complain of uncertainty over future deliveries, EU officials have told Reuters.

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BENTYAL / Hace 4 months

DISCRIMINATION!! NUREMBURG CODE, THE RUBBISH MEDIA FORGET TO BRING UP, STOPS FORCED VACCINATION AND FORCED MEDICAL PRACTICES WITHOUT CONSENT. FASCISM IS RULING. ALSO A VACCINATION ROLL OUT AND NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE IT OFFERS IMMUNITY OTHER THAN GLOBAL SEVERE REACTIONS & DEATHS, DOCUMENTED.

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Ryan / Hace 4 months

@Ray While I sympathize with your loss, consider this article from the British Medical Journal, titled “Shielding from covid-19 should be stratified by risk” written by Cambridge University professors:

Protecting those at most risk of dying from covid-19 while relaxing the strictures on others provides a way forward in the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic, given the virus is unlikely to disappear in the foreseeable future. Such targeted approaches would, however, require a shift away from the notion that we are all seriously threatened by the disease, which has led to levels of personal fear being strikingly mismatched to objective risk of death. Instead, the aim should be to communicate realistic levels of risk as they apply to different groups, not to reassure or frighten but to allow informed personal decisions in a setting of necessary uncertainty.

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Dave / Hace 4 months

Ps this is the same Badoer who threatens the MDB with a lawsuit because they allowed posts saying that illegal migrants should be sent home, then just a few articles below slags off the entire Danish country and says he doesn't give a $#it about Covid deaths. The guy is despicabke and full of contradictions.

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Ray / Hace 4 months

If someone could send me Ryan and Mark's addresses I would be grateful. There are quite a few of us online who have lost relatives to Covid (my mum) and I would really like to discuss it with them face to face. Maybe they can give their details on here or as expected are they too cowardly 🤔

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Andy / Hace 4 months

@Ray Utter tosh, you spout total frollocks. Keep being a denier, hope you don't get Covid mate as you wouldn't stand a chance.

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Ryan / Hace 4 months

@Ray Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science, consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.

There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.

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Ray / Hace 4 months

I think we should all bow down to the superior intellect of Mark Badoer. Despite every Gov't in the world, the WHO, leading scientists, all scientific journals, newspapers and the general population supporting lockdowns as a way to stop deaths, Mark Badoer says they are all idiots and only he is right. Unfortunately the guy probably has a BTEC in travel & tourism from Luton Poly or the equivalent from whatever hellhole he is from in Italy or Belgium. I am guessing the guy is short,has no mates and has a chip on his shoulder bigger than my foot (thanks Beatles). Unfortunately for us, as he is gainfully unemployed, we will continue to suffer his delusions of grandeur in the MDB comments section.

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Anne / Hace 4 months

Looking at all the negative comments for anyone who supports them, one can only conclude that there are a lot if people who have rental properties/shops/boats etc. that are affected by lockdown. So I tend to agree with some comments below eluding to the fact that many people's views are biaised by their financial position and not on protecting lives

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Mark Badoer / Hace 4 months

Ah, our white supremisist Dave also makes a comment again.

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Dave / Hace 4 months

The Mark Badbore who posts here more than anyone because he is a sad loser with nothing to do now he can't rip of tourists. The guy is a self interested bigot with half a brain. I suggest he buggers off to Africa with his mosquito zapper.

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