user Juan | over 2 years ago

Varant The first title I see on the Public health authority's latest research findings is that "230,800 hospitalisations prevented by COVID-19 vaccines in those over 45". I don't think I need to look much further to tell me what most of us already know. Yes, you choose not to believe the CDC, no surprises there really. Maybe you prefer the HSA's report published in the previously mentioned "Lancet", instead. which claims those with even two vaccinations are far less at risk of catching / spreading the coronavirus diseases? Although I imagine you'd rather I simply to carry on gnoring all findings as it Seems far more easier for you people. Ignorance certainly is bliss.

user Varant | over 2 years ago

Fred, I realise the truth hurts but that is the way life goes. Also, there are several people commenting on this platform and you seem to be the only one that feels the need to resort to insults and foul language. I wonder why your posts aren’t getting censored as you are really pushing the limits mate. Grow up!

user Fred | over 2 years ago

Varant just fuc£ off and go join your fellow deluded morons and sail to the edge of the earth.

user Varant | over 2 years ago

@ Gabriel, if you have never read a scientific report in your life by your own admission then i’d be careful about making statements. They are available readily if you look for them; as Juan points out the Lancet is generally a good one but many governments also provide these reports publicly nowadays. @Juan, apologies but I don’t consider the CDC objective as they have too many conflicts of interest. The lancet is a good source and they were one of the first to publish a paper showing that the viral load in vaccinated was the same if not higher than in the not vaccinated (before Omicron). An even better source is the UK public health reports on vaccine efficiency. Here is the link to the week 51 report; https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043608/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_51.pdf Look at table#8 and tell me how anyone can claim that the non vaccinated are spreading the disease more.

user Nigel | over 2 years ago

I think the whole debate depends on your age. Debating risk assessment, anyone under 30 stands a greater chance of problems vaccinated than not vaccinated. With regard to doctors and medical staff being unvaccinated, all will be revealed as to the scale of unvaccinated v/s vaccinated in April when the UK NHS sacks all unvaccinated staff.

user Juan | over 2 years ago

Well Varant, due to certain social media scientists who like to think they know better, it certainly has resulted in a "Them vs. us", Scenario. And what now, you didn't understand my reply so I literally have to show you in black and white who states unvaccinated spread more than vaccinated? Oh I don't know.... " The Centers for diseases and protection", "The Lancet", "healthline.UK to name 3 of hundreds... But go on, tell me how they are wrong or what part of their results you find suspicious, untrue? Do you need a weatherman to tell you when it's peeing down?

Rich Jack Rich | over 2 years ago

Unfortunately Mark, in time, with constant boosters, you may conclude that 1+1 = mug.

Rich Jack Rich | over 2 years ago

Gabriel. Sorry to inform you but, as stated by the boss of Pfizer they are developing a chip to go into pills, with an initial purpose to monitor patients as regards their compliance with the 'prescription'. Obviously this will only be for schizophrenia type of illnesses, to start with. Look up the video, I don't think it was a man in disguise, you probably will though.

user Gabriel | over 2 years ago

Rich, I don't feel used by the government. What would be the reason? Just for fun? Or genocide? Or radio frequencies stuffed into a microchip? Because having a mobile phone is not control enough, Bill wants to control me even more...

user Mark | over 2 years ago

Varant: you are right, it is not about us and them. What I care about is that it is a fact that 80+% of people that end up in hospital not vaccinated (not everyone is a concious non vaxer) and clogg up the health system. My view is that if you are against vaxination, you should be refused hospitalization. As thát is the bit that is what this is all about. Just stay at home and see if you survive. And as to Rich's few doctors who do not want the vaccine: you mean the 0,001 percent of doctors? Anyway, I have 2 jabs and a booster and although I was not totally keen on it either, I think it is my duty to society to do so. Plus: you have no life without it, when you travel a lot and have to stay in hotels like I do and or eat out a lot. So, 1+1=2. For the rest: keep shouting, no one listens to you non vaxers anyway.