Iago Negueruela and Sebastian Ebel by a Palma bus that runs off hydrogen produced in Lloseta. | Juan Luis Ruiz Collado
Lloseta23/03/2023 07:54
This summer, minibuses running on hydrogen will be used in Mallorca for tourist transfers between the airport and hotels. This will make Mallorca the first destination anywhere in the world to have transport powered by hydrogen for this purpose. They will be operated by TUI, whose CEO, Sebastian Ebel, said on Wednesday that this was an opportunity that had been created by the hydrogen plant in Lloseta.
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Well, you know nothing's perfect, and frankly, I could probably come up with 100 different arguments about why the invention of electricity or cars or even the internet has been ironic, hypocritical, or otherwise a terrible thing. But of course, all of those arguments would need to be based on some alternative version of reality. But >you< might believe them. And yes, many people question everything that suits them at any moment, in many cases only to further an ideological agenda. Trump for example, would have died on the vine without alternate-reality ideological tribalism. So, until you can come up with something rational and tangible, and not ideologically inspired, I'll stick with Occam's razor.
Morgan WilliamsMorgan, if it weren't for people like me who seek out flaws and hypocrisy in others ideas, we'd still be rubbing sticks together at camp. Mind you, I didn't have to do much seeking here to find the flaw in the idea. It's like the electric vehicle phenomenon, the government tells you to go electric to help save the planet, meanwhile they ask you to cut back on electricity usage to avoid shortages. Perhaps I am missing the point here but could you please explain to me how this isn't a blatant contradiction. Do we plug in or plug out, which is it. Similarly with the wind turbines. The amount of road clearance, infrastructure, machinery, fuel etc to get one of them in position is frightening. You must factor all these things in when calculating their viability. Not to mention the ongoing maintenance requirements. Solar is much more efficient although certainly not without it's own flaws. You must be honest in how you assess these things, the true cost must never elude you or else it is backwards we will go. I suggest you read "the wealth of nations" by Adam Smith, this book is fundamental to understanding basic economics. A really enjoyable read. If you wish to borrow it from me I'd be happy to lend it to you.
Jason DOh, I don't think that's why people have a problem with your ideology. The problem you have is that in your overactive haste to find something wrong with it all, you've completely missed (dodged?) the point. Who cares that it required petrofuel consumption to build it. Today, virtually everything does. But because of technology like this, tomorrow will be a very different story. Oh, and by the way, unlike petroleum, hydrogen is an abundant and virtually limitless resource. And once production becomes ubiquitous, producing it will be cheap. So, while you may not care about the climate, you may find yourself paying pennies for fuel in the future. Lastly, this isn't ideological. Your mate there is attempting to call it nonsense for ideological reasons. But again, it has nothing to do with ideology. It bloody good use of technology, that's all. Personally, I think it's pretty cool that it's happening here first. Wait till you see what happens with that. Remember where you heard this.
Jason DSome people dislike the truth evidently.
Stan The ManNot true at all. Every item you see around you is attributable to diesel fuel. The hydrogen plant they speak of was built using diesel machinery, the materials used to construct it all required masses of diesel to aquire. The workers that travel to the plant all use diesel cars, which travel on roads built using diesel. The fuel itself will be delivered in diesel trucks. The hydrogen buses all built using materials manufacturered from diesel. The tourists travelling on the bus are travelling from a jet fuelled aircraft to a hotel built again on the back of ....., you guessed it. Only to be served by staff all present due to the magic of diesel fuel.
Oh god. More climate change nonsense. For the great of good apparently. Why most western European countries account for less than 1.5% of carbon emissions world-wide we continue on this cult like journey to zero emissions making everybody poorer. Especially the poor who our now even poorer. It's like being hymotised to believe bullshi*t like the last 2 years of nonsense. (The C word) don't get me started on the West instigating WW3. The West and the big corporations/ corrupt politicians, big pharma, media controlled by the corporation's. This is the enemy of us all. The establishment.
An Excellent achievement !!!. Delighted to see Hydrogen powered Buses. Hopefully the car hire companies will follow their brilliant example. The only thing that is exhausted from a Hydrogen Powered Vehicle is WATER !!!. WELL DONE MALLORCA.